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Postby BDF02M » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:14 pm

I'm looking to get a little something installed (hopefully this week).

Could anyone recomend a shop or place that does clean work that knows something about something? It's nothing big, just a little box in my trunk is all. :thumb:
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Postby BDF02M » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:40 pm

Nobody huh? I've asked a local Best Buy, Circuit City, and Audio Express, and they all quoted about $50, plus power cables... then I mentioned it was a VW with Monsoon, and they all upped the price to around $130!!

Audio Express guy didn't know what a Basslink was, and Best Buy guy didn't seem to know a thing about how to install the little bastard. He was looking for my rear speakers on the deck and reserved the right to raise the install price "if it's a pain in the ass."

So, any help would be appreciated. :clap:
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Postby BDF02M » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:38 pm

motorwerks wrote:F both of those places. Check with Auto Radio stereo on Arden, or Folsom Audiosport. Both should be able to get it done for a reason able price.


Right on. Thanks Ben. Any suggestion of one over another? I probably wouldn't be able to make it to the one in Folsom during their business hours... but if they were significantly better.... hmmm...?
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Postby oldskoolvwlover » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:09 pm

:thumb: :thumb:

they are good people, do a good job, and won't rip you off.

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Postby BDF02M » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:35 pm

That's awesome. Done and done. Thank you, gentlemen.
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Postby oldskoolvwlover » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:42 pm

I'll take what I can get :)

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Postby BDF02M » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:05 pm

Talked to Big Mike today and set something up. :thumb:

Ben... he referred to you as the Pepsi guy?? :confused:
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Postby newark24v » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:00 pm

curious, did you get it put in yet? if so, how much did you spend and what did you have to buy?
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Postby BDF02M » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:24 pm

Yeah, it's been in since... mid to late September. Works like a champ.
I really don't remember what I paid, but it wasn't bad at all. All I had to buy was a power kit.

Funny you should ask now though... just the other day I was playing with the balance, and noticed the sub only plays the right channel. Soooo something's amiss. Still sounds good though. Cool to think it would sound even better were it hooked up correctly.
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Postby newark24v » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:51 pm

glad you didnt have to buy anything more than the power kit because i gave you all the other necessary cables to make it work directly. Glad you're happy with it and it being linked to the R channel only shouldnt be an issue. In fact, when i had an amp hooked up to my stock system a few years ago, i tapped only into the L speakers that way i dont risk destroying the other speaker wires since i would have to strip them.
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Postby BDF02M » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:08 am

The Right channel shouldn't be an issue, but it would be best to have it connected to both channels, yeah?
I know the other cable/connector is around somewhere... the guy installing it said it was a spare. I believed him because he was doing an awesome job with the installation. Figured he'd know.
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Postby oldskoolvwlover » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:49 pm

what kinda deck is it connected to?

Most aftermarket decks, at least all the ones I have installed over the last 10 years have a dedicated subwoofer preamp output. If this is the case, he just plugged the rca cables into the incorrect outputs (shouldn't happen but it can if he was rushing a lil). It's a quick fix of sliding the deck out and changing the plugs. This output should be a non-fading output, so changing where they plug into would fix the fading issue.


Besides the dedicated sub output, if there is other outputs (or no sub output) they are front to back so the fact you are seeing only one channel (left or right) play means the RCA cables themselves are either bad or one isn't plugged in all the way. This is the main source of your problem, and is probably not the fault of the installer. Now if this is hooked up using line level inputs (using the factory wires for input) you will see fading regardless because the input is being taken from one channel of the factory wiring (which will fade when with control of the deck).



Depending on the deck this can also be important because a lot of decks (again all of my pioneers) have some dedicated control over the subwoofer preamp output. For example the pioneer allows you some control over the subwoofer level as if it were a volume control, it also allows you to set the highest frequency that the amp/sub are seeing out of the deck. These are all things that can be done on the amp as well, but it is nice to have the added control from the front of the car especially if you listen to a variety of music.

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Postby BDF02M » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:48 pm

I wish I had pre amps and all that good stuff. :)

I'm using the factory Monsoon deck. The connections are from the factory amp to the sub/speakers.

I know ass about stereo setups, btw. :D
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Postby oldskoolvwlover » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:35 pm

yeah thats why you are getting the fading..... it is hooked up properly, I know on some decks there are ways to get preamps but IIRC it's only non-monsoon decks.

There is no way to make that setup non fading though, just the nature of the beast, since the sub signal is going to be controlled by the deck just like it would if it was that rear speaker in the factory setup.

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Postby t4ndrummafox4 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:07 am

i worked at the circuit city in fairfield near the solano mall, the installers there are great and really respect the cars. They'll make anything look clean and custom if you want.

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Postby my02vr6 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:42 pm

Yes, circuit city does great work I'm sure, if you wanna spend an arm and a leg to do it, unless you buy the stuff there. I went there to get my 6.5 and tweeters put in my MK4 and they wanted $800 something :hmm:

Could have done it myself after looking at it, but paid an independant shop in Vacaville to do it for half that.

So bottom line, pay full price for stereo equipment, get it installed at the big stores. Pay a good price for used stuff, do it yourself or pay a small shop to do it.

BTW, isn't circuit city closing???
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Postby newark24v » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:41 am

i worked circuit city roadshop 2 years ago. ours in particular had good installers but not all circuit citys are good. it all depends. $800 is a rip off. they definitely were over charging you. Circuit city has set prices for the labor. installing a pair of components is $60 (and iirc is still the same today). if u need extra parts, you have to buy those.

im shocked they wanted $800 from you. even half of that is pretty ridiculous IMO.
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Postby diz_gti » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:46 am

ive bought a jenson over head dvd player for my van at circuit city on stevens creek san jose, they didnt charge me for installation :thumb:
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Postby oldskoolvwlover » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:36 am

I personally wouldn't have an install done at ANY big box store. That is just my opinion... I know some of those shops have good installers, that isn't always the issue. A bad install doesn't always mean a bad installer when you go to a big box store..... odds are if you pick a big box store at random not knowing anyone working there, you probably won't get a great install (especially when compared to some of the shops posted earlier in this thread).

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Postby newark24v » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:51 pm

diz_gti wrote:ive bought a jenson over head dvd player for my van at circuit city on stevens creek san jose, they didnt charge me for installation :thumb:


thats cuz theyre not supposed. labor is free for any headunit over $100. They do get you when you have to buy harnesses and kits though. but hey, as long as you are happy with the deal you got :thumb:
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Postby BDF02M » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:53 pm

...speaking of stereos and the like...

How do aftermarket decks work out in MKIVs with Monsoon?
Does the factory amp come out?
Does the deck stay on after turning the car off until the key is removed (like stock)?
Alarm/electrical wiring issues?
Any helpful things to know? Pros/cons stock vs aftermarket?
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Postby my02vr6 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 am

The stereo works fine with the stock Monsoon system, if you like that system. if you have the double din stereo, you will have to rewire the ignition to turn off with the key, or else turn it on and off manually everytime.

Depending on the aftermarket stereo, it may be too deep for the cage, and you'll have to do some cutting. Kenwood single dins fit perfect :thumb: I had to do some cutting for my double din though for the wires to fit. Its all in what you want to use the stereo for.
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Postby newark24v » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:40 am

i currently have an alpine 9885 and that fits fine.. my old pioneer dehp 8600 was huge and i made it fit too without any problems.

the deck only turns on when the key is in. you can technically wire it to stay on permanently but that owuld mean it will stay on even when the key is out. not the best idea.

my deck is currently hooked up to my factory monsoon. you just wire it the same way you would wire any other deck. match the colors on the harness.

IMO an aftermarket deck enhanced the sound of my monsoon.
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Postby BDF02M » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:38 am

Awesome. Just thought I'd ask, as I'd heard of complications with the Monsoon amp. Pretty sweet to still be able to use it.
I was thinking about the Alpine IDA-X001. Primarily an iPod receiver, I can add a CD changer later if I want to listen to CDs. Any opinions on the unit? I know jack about car audio. :p
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